This morning I asked Wisconsin Senate candidate-- and former majority leader of the Wisconsin state Assembly-- Tom Nelson what he thought of the really crazy NY Times piece by Reid Epstein, Fringe Scheme to Reverse 2020 Election Splits Wisconsin GOP. Sounds nuts, right? Nelson's comment was "What you reap is what you sow." He was referring to the state GOP's establishment in general and Assembly speaker Robin Vos in particular.
Nelson said none of this surprises him. "Wisconsin was on the bleeding edge of the Tea Party movement ten years ago. There is a direct blood line between election conspiracy crackpots like Rep. Ramthun and the cast of characters swept into office in 2010. Aside from the outlandish behavior and their bizarre theories, there is not a lot of daylight between Ramthun and Vos. Indeed, Act 10 and an unwavering attack on the public sector spawned the likes of Ramthun and Rep. Kathy Bernier-- to say nothing of Vos sanctioning Mike Gableman's witch hunt."
Epstein wrote that "First, Wisconsin Republicans ordered an audit of the 2020 election. Then they passed a raft of new restrictions on voting. And in June, they authorized the nation’s only special counsel investigation into 2020. Now, more than 15 months after Trump lost the state by 20,682 votes, an increasingly vocal segment of the Republican Party is getting behind a new scheme: decertifying the results of the 2020 presidential election in hopes of reinstalling Trump in the White House." Yep, they reap what they sow, just like Nelson said.
Wisconsin is closer to the next federal election than the last, but the Republican effort to overturn the election results here is picking up steam rather than fading away-- and spiraling further from reality as it goes. The latest turn, which has been fueled by Trump, bogus legal theories and a new candidate for governor, is creating chaos in the Republican Party and threatening to undermine its push to win the contests this year for governor and the Senate.
The situation in Wisconsin may be the most striking example of the struggle by Republican leaders to hold together their party when many of its most animated voters simply will not accept the reality of Trump’s loss.
...Vos, the Assembly speaker who has allowed vague theories about fraud to spread unchecked, is now struggling to rein them in. Even Vos’s careful attempts have turned election deniers sharply against him.
“This is a real issue,” said Timothy Ramthun, the Republican state representative who has turned his push to decertify the election into a nascent campaign for governor. Ramthun has asserted that if the Wisconsin Legislature decertifies the results and rescinds the state’s 10 electoral votes-- an action with no basis in state or federal law-- it could set off a movement that would oust President Biden from office.
“We don’t wear tinfoil hats,” he said. “We’re not fringe.”
Although support for the decertification campaign is difficult to measure, it wouldn’t take much to make an impact in a state where elections are regularly decided by narrow margins. Ramthun is drawing crowds, and his campaign has already revived Republicans’ divisive debate over false claims of fraud in 2020. Nearly two-thirds of Wisconsin Republicans were not confident in the state’s 2020 presidential election results, according to an October poll from the Marquette University Law School in Milwaukee.
“This is just not what the Republican Party needs right now,” said Rob Swearingen, a Republican state representative from the conservative Northwoods. “We shouldn’t be fighting among ourselves about what happened, you know, a year and a half ago.”
...[T]he decertification push has turned Republican politics on its head. After more than a decade of Republican leaders marching in lock-step with their base, the party is hobbled by infighting and it’s Democrats who are aligned behind Gov. Tony Evers, who is seeking a second term in November.
“Republicans now are arguing over whether we want democracy or not,” Evers said in an interview on Friday.
Ramthun, a 64-year-old lawmaker who lives in a village of 2,000 people an hour northwest of Milwaukee, has ridden his decertification push to become a sudden folk hero to the party’s Trump wing. Stephen Bannon, Trump’s former adviser, has hosted Ramthun on his podcast. At party events, he shows off a 72-page presentation in which he claims, falsely, that legislators have the power to declare Wisconsin’s election results invalid and recall the state’s electoral votes.
Ramthun has received bigger applause at local Republican gatherings than the leading candidates for governor, and last weekend he joined the race himself, announcing his candidacy at a campaign kickoff where he was introduced by Mike Lindell, the MyPillow chief executive who has financed numerous efforts to undermine and overturn the 2020 election.
Trump offered public words of encouragement.
“Who in Wisconsin is leading the charge to decertify this fraudulent election?” the former president said in a statement.
It did not take long before the state’s top Republicans were responding to Ramthun’s election conspiracies. Within days, both of his Republican rivals for governor released new plans to strengthen partisan control of Wisconsin’s elections.
During a radio appearance on Thursday, former Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, the party establishment’s preferred candidate, refused to admit that Biden won the 2020 election-- something she had already conceded last September. Kleefisch declined to be interviewed.
Kevin Nicholson, a former Marine with backing from the right-wing billionaire Richard Uihlein, declined in an interview to say whether the election was legitimate, but he said there was “no legal path” to decertifying the results.
Vos spent nearly an hour Friday on a Milwaukee conservative talk radio show defending his opposition to decertification from skeptical callers.
“It is impossible-- it cannot happen,” he said. “I don’t know how many times I can say that.”
Yet, Ramthun claims to have the grass-roots energy on his side. On Tuesday, he drew a crowd of about 250 people for a two-hour rally in the rotunda of the Wisconsin State Capitol.
Terry Brand, the Republican Party chairman in rural Langlade County, chartered a bus for two dozen people for the three-hour ride. Brand in January oversaw the first county GOP condemnation of Vos, calling for the leader’s resignation for blocking the decertification effort. At the rally, Brand stood holding a sign that said “Toss Vos.”
“People are foaming at the mouth over this issue,” he said, listening intently as speakers offered both conspiracy theories and assurances to members of the crowd that they were of sound mind.
“You’re not crazy,” Janel Brandtjen, the chairwoman of the Assembly’s elections committee, told the crowd.
One speaker tied Vos, through a college roommate and former House Speaker Paul Ryan, to the false claims circulating in right-wing media that Hillary Clinton’s campaign spied on Trump. Another was introduced under a pseudonym, then promptly announced herself as a candidate for lieutenant governor.
The rally closed with remarks from Harry Wait, an organizer of a conservative group in Racine County called HOT Government, an acronym for honest, open and transparent.
“I want to remind everybody,” Wait said, “that yesterday’s conspiracies may be today’s reality.”
Ramthun says he has questioned the result of every presidential election in Wisconsin since 1996. (He does not make an exception for the one Republican victory in that period: Trump’s in 2016.) He has pledged to consider ending the use of voting machines and to conduct an “independent full forensic physical cyber audit” of the 2020 election-- and also of the 2022 election, regardless of how it turns out.
Ramthun has adopted a biblical slogan-- “Let there be light”-- a reference to his claim that Vos is hiding the truth from voters. If Wisconsin pulls back its electoral votes, Ramthun said, other states may follow.
(American presidents can be removed from office only by impeachment or by a vote of the cabinet.)
All of this has become too much for Vos, who before the Trump era was a steady Republican foot soldier focused on taxes, spending and labor laws.
Vos has often appeased his party’s election conspiracists, expressing his own doubts about who really won in Wisconsin, calling for felony charges against Wisconsin’s top election administrators and authorizing an investigation into the 2020 election, which is still underway.
Now, even as he draws the line on decertification, Vos has tried to placate his base and plead for patience. He announced this week the Assembly plans to vote on a new package of voting bills. (Evers said in the interview on Friday that he would veto any new restrictions.)
“It’s simply a matter of misdirected anger,” he said, of the criticism he’s facing. “They have already assumed that the Democrats are hopeless, and now they are focused on those of us who are trying to get at the truth, hoping we do more.”
Other Republicans in the state are also walking a political tightrope-- refusing to accept Biden’s victory while avoiding taking a position on Ramthun’s decertification effort.
“Evidence might be out there, that is something other people are working on,” said Ron Tusler, who sits on the Assembly’s elections committee. “It’s too early to be sure but it’s possible we try it later.”
State Senator Kathy Bernier is the only of Wisconsin’s 82 Republican state legislators who has made a public case that Trump lost the state fairly, without widespread fraud.
Bernier, the chairwoman of the State Senate’s elections committee, in November asked the Wisconsin Legislature’s attorneys to weigh in on the legality of decertifying an election-- it is not possible, they said. In December, she called for an end to the Assembly’s investigation into 2020. Three weeks later, she announced she won’t seek re-election this year.
“I have no explanation as to why legislators want to pursue voter-fraud conspiracy theories that have not been proven,” Bernier said in an interview. “They should not do that. It’s dangerous to our democratic republic. They need to step back and only speak about things that they know and understand and can do. And outside of that, they should button it up.”
A couple of days ago Milwaukee Journal Sentinel political reporter Patrick Marley wrote that some of the crackpots in the legislature are trying to throw elected officials into jail. They've lost their minds. "[O]n Friday," wrote Marley, "Gableman intensified his efforts, telling Waukesha County Circuit Judge Ralph Ramirez he should incarcerate those mayors and others if they don’t sit for interviews with him behind closed doors. The officials have said they are willing to talk to Gableman but don’t believe he should be able to do so out of the view of the public. They argue the interviews should be conducted before a legislative committee.
Along with the Democratic chairwoman of the bipartisan Elections Commission, Gableman and the lunatic fringe of the Assembly Republicans are trying to jail the mayors of Madison, Racine and Green Bay. Gableman doesn't have any real legal authority to do anything at all and has been working at Vos' discretion an direction... along with a very questionable taxpayer-funded budget of $676,000.
DCShithead,
you are a breath of fresh air after it has passed over the open air fecal separating tanks at the sewage treatment plant.
Are you really the best that Russia agitprop division has to offer?
Asking for a friend?
you know damn well who is to blame. voters.
your panel at the head of the page says it all, except that WHEN naziism came to america, voters elected it. And voters will keep electing it until voting is no longer a "thing" in this nazi shithole.
Also because voters refuse to elect a remedy. democraps are a pathetic joke, NOT a remedy.
Whomsoever does not believe this does not see. It's been there for decades.