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Writer's pictureHowie Klein

What Kind Of People Are STILL With Trump?



Trump had nothing to do with the 3 far right characters, prohibited from having weapons because of previous conviction, arrested by the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department with "live ammunition, black gunpowder, and an improvised military-grade explosive device." Trumpism, though, gave them all the permission they needed. These are Trump-people and that has been becoming clearer and clearer as the Select Committee televised hearings unfold. In fact, The Atlantic published an essay, Trump's Savviest Aides Already Headed For The Exits, by an Obama former assistant secretary for homeland security, Juliette Kayyem, currently chair of the homeland-security program at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.


"Democracies," she wrote, "do not fail in a single moment; they gradually break down from within. The same can be said of violent movements. Since the Capitol riot, the United States has been waging what is essentially a counter-extremism effort against Trump and the forces that nearly toppled our democracy. Such movements grow by portraying themselves as successful and their leadership as exceptional. The committee hearings have shown Trump to be not only an insurrectionist and an inciter of violence, but also a desperate sore loser. Almost everyone around Trump was telling him that his public claims of election fraud were 'bullshit,' as former Attorney General William Barr put it. The people who continue spreading that myth need to know that Trump is making a fool of them. The savviest of his advisers long ago headed for the exits, and the ones who haven’t are not to be believed."


Notably, most of the committee’s witnesses against the former president are or were members of Team Trump or the GOP. Look at them, the committee is saying-- there is a way out. Trump, according to Representative Liz Cheney, the committee’s Republican vice chair, was advised by an “apparently inebriated” Rudy Giuliani. This description, based on the accounts of Trump-campaign figures, isn’t idle gossip, but is meant to humiliate Trump, make him seem like a puppet of the unhinged and reckless. Run away from that guy! Trump is also betrayed by his daughter Ivanka, who in videotaped testimony looks deflated and pale as she sides with the forces telling Trump to stop his madness. The implication is clear: If his own daughter isn’t with him, why should you be?
The former president’s critics may rightly ask why neither she nor Barr spoke up in the moment. But longtime Trump skeptics aren’t the committee’s target audience. The message to his remaining supporters is: Trump has peaked. His best days are behind him. You won’t be the first to take the off-ramp, but you don’t want to be the last.
Instead of subscribing to Trump’s stolen-election fantasies, Republicans can join Team Normal, the term used by the former campaign manager Bill Stepien to describe those who were not instigating violence. If these former Trump loyalists can reject the lies, the committee is effectively telling his current followers, then so can you. And by the way, there was no honor among Trump’s abettors; the committee has evidence, one of its two Republican members has said, that GOP politicians who may have been involved with coordinating the January 6 effort had sought pardons, leaving everybody else exposed to prosecution.
According to evidence aired Thursday, John Eastman-- a Trump legal adviser who kept insisting that then–Vice President Mike Pence had the power to alter the Electoral College vote-- presumptuously declared in an email after the riot, “I’ve decided that I should be on the pardon list, if that is still in the works.” One of Trump’s White House lawyers testified that he’d told Eastman, “Get a great effing criminal-defense lawyer. You’re gonna need it.” The message to Trump supporters: With company like this, do you need any more reason to take an exit?
My background is in homeland security, and I have previously argued that counterterrorism holds lessons in how to isolate Trump and de-radicalize MAGA extremists.... The committee and its investigators plainly understand the one way in which extremist groups gain a foothold politically: Their leaders present themselves as more reasonable and less violent than they really are. The committee is trying to deny Trump and his MAGA allies that option by reminding Americans that the threat of brute force was always the undercurrent behind “Stop the Steal.”
A single congressional committee cannot make Trump’s most violent supporters better, kinder, more accepting of America’s diversity. But it can help separate the former president from elites, donors, and those who would support him simply because they don’t like the alternative.
The committee’s case against Trump is relentless and personal-- and one apparently targeted at Americans who might have voted for the former president or been sympathetic to his ideas. As Cheney said, “There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.” The committee and its investigators aren’t being nasty for its own sake.
...Asa Hutchinson, the Republican governor of Arkansas, has said that many in the GOP are looking for the “off-ramp” from Trump’s election fiction. On the left, many of Trump’s critics seem to yearn for a single blow of reckoning, but perhaps the threat he and his followers pose is best handled with a thousand cuts.
The most effective attempt to isolate Trump came at the end of the second hearing, when Representative Zoe Lofgren highlighted the Trump family’s greed and opportunism in the days after the election. This narrative isn’t particularly necessary for an indictment. Still, a committee staffer disclosed that, after losing the November 2020 election, Trump and his allies raised $250 million in pursuit of the lie but never set up the special fund that they had promised to dedicate to the cause. Some of the money went to paying Kimberly Guilfoyle, Donald Trump Jr.’s fiancée, $60,000 for a two-and-a-half-minute speech on January 6. Donors “deserve better than what President Trump and his team did,” Lofgren declared, lending a sympathetic ear to those who might be feeling a little duped. Perhaps she doesn’t really believe it, but it works as a way of saying: Have you had enough yet?
The conservative commentator Ann Coulter appears to concur. “Every time you think you have your arms fully around Trump’s con,” she wrote this week, “you realize it’s unfathomably more cynical and far-reaching than you could have imagined.” She added, “Is there anyone in Trump World who isn’t trying to fleece the Deplorables?”
The committee is building a historical record as well as a legal case against Trump and his aides. But it is also grappling with the threat posed by a violent movement-- a threat that weakens if enough of Trump’s supporters quietly back away from him. Trump does not need to go to prison to be disgraced. If the former president ends up a rich, lonely man who can no longer fill a stadium, begging a dwindling number of radical adherents for attention while his children grift off his name, then America will have won.

Unless people like the 3 characters in Morongo Valley, currently in jail cells, blow up a building filled with children. I don't think they had those explosive devises to mine for rare earth minerals.



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dcrapguy
dcrapguy
Jun 21, 2022

second point. what kind of people are still with trump? at least 74 million voters, that's who.

and that will not change no matter which nazi pols head for the off ramp nor what trump shrieks about next. he is their golden calf.


if the nation is to survive this, the 150 million+ voters who do not vote for nazis must coalesce into a movement to keep and improve the republic.

Sadly, the democrap party will NEVER be that movement ever again (after 1932-1966ish), so thoroughly corrupted they've become... ON PURPOSE.


Absent divine intervention, then, it is incumbent upon the 150 million to coalesce such a movement. Thus far, the 150 million have proved to be woefully unable/unwilling to d…


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dcrapguy
dcrapguy
Jun 21, 2022

saith Juliette Kayyem: "Since the Capitol riot, the United States has been waging what is essentially a counter-extremism effort against Trump and the forces that nearly toppled our democracy."


Not even close. The US has not been doing shit. The democrap party is conducting campaign ads for 2022 and maybe beyond, but there really is no counter-extremism "effort" against anyone involved. None of them are under indictment and, with merrick garland now an epithet equivalent of 'jack shit', none are ever likely to be so encumbered.


In addition, gerrymandering continues with the supreme court likely to weigh in to bless some of the worst nazi efforts. democraps? crickets.

In addition, many dozens of voter suppression laws have been written with…


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