How About A Prison For Trump & His Whole Crew?
I don’t like molesters. I’ve always detested people who believe they’re entitled to use power to impose sexually on other people. Trump has been doing this is entire miserable life. And now we have a credible report that Giuliano forced his disgusting self on a young woman, a Republican like himself. But not an ugly one like himself. On January 6, all the little neo-Nazis were excited that their coup was moving along and that Mike Pence was on the verge of being hung. That kind of excitement— at least in Giuliani— manifested itself in sexual energy, although no one knows if, at 79, he’s capable of an actual erection. According to Cassidy Hutchinson, he was probably flaccid while he attacked her.
In her new book, Enough, the Trump attorney and indicted coup-plotter approached her backstage at Donald Trump’s speech near the White House before his supporters marched on Congress in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election, “like a wolf closing in on its prey” and put his hand under her blazer and under her skirt.
A report yesterday from The Guardian: “‘I feel his frozen fingers trail up my thigh,’ she writes. ‘He tilts his chin up. The whites of his eyes look jaundiced. My eyes dart to [Trump adviser] John Eastman, who flashes a leering grin. ‘I fight against the tension in my muscles and recoil from Rudy’s grip… filled with rage, I storm through the tent, on yet another quest for Mark.’ Mark Meadows, Trump’s final chief of staff, was Hutchinson’s White House boss.”
Now “Struggling to pay his legal expenses,” wrote Martin Pengelly, “his luxury New York apartment up for sale, and Giuliani also faces a $1.3 million lawsuit from his own lawyer, seeking unpaid fees, and a $10 million suit from a former personal assistant. In that suit, Giuliani is accused of offences including abuse of power, wage theft, sexual assault and harassment.”
In her book, describing the events of January 6, the deadly culmination of Trump’s attempt to overturn his defeat by Joe Biden, Hutchinson writes that she “experience[d] anger, bewilderment, and a creeping sense of dread that something really horrible [was] going to happen.”
Describing the backstage scene at Trump’s speech, she writes: “I find Rudy in the back of the tent with, among others, John Eastman. The corners of his mouth split into a Cheshire cat smile. Waving a stack of documents, he moves towards me, like a wolf closing in on its prey.
“‘We have the evidence. It’s all here. We’re going to pull this off.’ Rudy wraps one arm around my body, closing the space that was separating us. I feel his stack of documents press into the small of my back. I lower my eyes and watch his free hand reach for the hem of my blazer.
“‘By the way,’ he says, fingering the fabric, ‘I’m loving this leather jacket on you.’ His hand slips under my blazer, then my skirt.”
Writing for New York Magazine yesterday, Margaret Hartmann <>noted<> that “Giuliani has been accused of a staggering amount of untoward and even illegal behavior in recent years. Worst among the allegations are his former employee’s claims that he sexually assaulted and harassed her, which she is currently suing him over, and his campaign to steal the 2020 election for Donald Trump, which led to Giuliani being hit with 13 felony counts, including racketeering, in Georgia last month.”
And so was Trump— 13 felony counts. And yesterday Adam Rawnsley and Asawin Suebsaeng reported that he’s worried that he’s finally going to prison. Will he be forced to wear “one of those jumpsuits” in prison, he frets to his lawyers. They wrote that “As the criminal cases against him have piled up, the former president and 2024 GOP frontrunner has wondered aloud in recent months about what life would be like if he’s convicted, and if appeals fail. While Trump publicly professes confidence, privately, three sources familiar with his comments say, he’s been asking lawyers and other people close to him what a prison sentence would look like for a former American president. It’s so unfair that he’s thinking about what a prison sentence would be like instead of what the constitutionally- mandated sentence for treason would be— a firing squad, which is what he deserves. Put it on TV; best ratings ever.
Would he be sent to a “club fed” style prison— a place that’s relatively comfortable, as far these things go— or a “bad” prison? Would he serve out a sentence in a plush home confinement? Would government officials try to strip him of his lifetime Secret Service protections? What would they make him wear, if his enemies actually did ever get him in a cell— an unprecedented set of consequences for a former leader of the free world.
What would happen— including in the Fulton County, Georgia criminal case against him and various co-defendants— if he were convicted and sentenced, but also re-elected?
The private questions are a departure from the air of supreme confidence invincibility Trump has projected. In interviews and elsewhere, he has claimed that the thought of losing in court and going to prison simply cannot enter his mind.
Trump’s attorneys like Alina Habba have amplified that bravado. Habba told Fox News’ Shannon Bream last month that the former president was so confident he would be vindicated that he’s not even preparing for his various trials. “If it was a normal person, honestly Shannon, I could understand the concern,” she said, adding that “You don’t have to prep much when you’ve done nothing wrong.”
But now out of office, sources close to Trump and those who’ve heard him ask these questions about a hypothetical sentencing tell Rolling Stone that it’s clear the gravity of his mounting legal peril is getting to Trump, regardless of whether the former president can admit to it in public.
…Even before he faced criminal charges, Trump showed at least a distant concern about looming criminal liability. As Rolling Stone reported in 2022, the former president told associates that he was looking forward to running for president again at least in part because the office would afford him at least temporary immunity from prosecution. He and his legal team have also grasped at exotic legal theories in seemingly desperate attempts to shut down the cases against him in Fulton County and New York City.
Experts say that, in the event of a conviction, Trump would still be entitled to Secret Service protection for the rest of his life. But the answers to many of his other questions— like where he’d have to serve a sentence and under what conditions— would vary based on whether he’s convicted and on which charges.
Still, the former president faces daunting math given the scope of charges against him. At the moment, Trump is set to stand trial in four criminal cases spanning 91 charges, including several felony counts.
The jeopardy places the former president in rare company with few historical examples to illustrate what he might expect in the event of a conviction. The closest equivalent to Trump’s legal predicament lies in the 1973 federal prosecution of Nixon Vice President Spiro Agnew on charges related to bribes from his tenure as governor of Maryland. In that case, Agnew struck a plea deal that netted him only probation.
Like Trump, Agnew campaigned as a populist pugilist eager for conflict with the political left. But as the criminal investigation of him mounted, privately “Agnew was utterly terrified of going to jail,” his biographer Charles Holden told Rolling Stone. “He was still terrified of that and the humiliation of it haunted him as well.”
Tuesday, during an interview on CNN, former Trump attorney Ty Cobb said “I hear Trump, you know, really for the first time in terms of the way this evidence is rolled out, you know, speaking in the terms of a mob boss. You know, giving a direct order to somebody that he probably should have no reason to believe, you know, would lie for him, but expecting her to do so… [T]here’s a difference between loyalty and, you know, breaking the law, and that’s not a line she was going to cross.”
On CNN yesterday, conservative Republican Mike Lawler said “This is not conservative Republicanism. This is stupidity. The idea that we’re going to shut the government down when we don’t control the Senate, we don’t control the White House. These people can’t define a win. They don’t know how to take yes for an answer. It’s a clown show. You keep running lunatics. You’re going to be in this position.” What a shame no one asked him who he meant by “lunatics.” Was it House colleagues like Marjorie Traitor Greene, Scott Perry, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, George Santos? Dave Schweikert? Ken Calvert? Those are all certifiable lunatics. Or was he talking about Trump? Or DeSantis? Ramswamy? How about one of the South Carolina GOP closet cases, the one who said strikers should be fired? I can’t believe there was no follow up. Lawler must have had someone in mind. Was in McCarthy? I doubt it; he voted for McCarthy to be Speaker 15 times.
I wonder what Vegas odds are on either one being put away. 50-1? 100-1? infinity-1?
I can presume that the odds of castration are not even posted.