Lies, Non-Sequiturs & The Gish Gallop: Trump’s Debate Playbook Exposed
I assume MSNBC analyst Brendan Buck— once communications chief for John Boehner and then Paul Ryan— is still a Republican, although an establishment MSNBC kind of Republican who feels disenfranchised by MAGA. In any case, he seemed distraught by Biden’s poor performance in the debate Thursday evening. He wrote that Trump didn’t win but that Biden “certainly lost… and gave one of the worst debate performances in recent memory… Ultimately, this debate will long be remembered for how old and frail Biden appeared. The beginning of the evening— the most important part— was actually painful to watch. And it didn’t get much better. He failed to complete thoughts, made awkward and confusing statements and looked lost when not talking.”
He also noted that “Trump gave people who hate him or simply worry about his character plenty of reasons to keep worrying. He is exactly who people remember him to be: hyperbolic, shameless and unserious. He refused to give straight answers, confidently lied about things that are easy to prove and repeatedly failed to respond to the moderators’ attempts to redirect him. When asked whether he would pledge to abide by the November election results he demurred and caveated. He denied statements made on the public record and made misleading and offensive claims about Democratic former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Jan. 6 riot.’
Heather Cox Richardson also noted that “Trump lied and rambled incoherently, ignored questions to say whatever he wanted; refused to acknowledge the events of January 6, 2021; and refused to commit to accepting the result of the 2024 presidential election, finally saying he would accept it only if it met his standards for fairness.”
She likely noticed, perhaps without realizing it, what happens to addicts hopped up on Adderall when she wrote that “Trump came out strong but faded and became less coherent over time. His entire performance was either lies or rambling non-sequiturs… Trump said that some Democratic states allow people to execute babies after they’re born and that every legal scholar wanted Roe v. Wade overturned— both fantastical lies. He said that the deficit is at its highest level ever and that the U.S. trade deficit is at its highest ever: both of those things happened during his administration. He lied that there were no terrorist attacks during his presidency; there were many. He said that Biden wants to quadruple people’s taxes— this is ‘pure fiction,’ according to Dale— and lied that his tax cuts paid for themselves; they have, in fact, added trillions of dollars to the national debt. Dale went on: Trump lied that the U.S. has provided more aid to Ukraine than Europe has when it’s the other way around, and he was off by close to $100 billion when he named the amount the U.S. has provided to Ukraine. He was off by millions when he talked about how many migrants have crossed the border under Biden, and falsely claimed that some of Biden’s policies— like funding historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs) and reducing the price of insulin to $35 a month— were his own accomplishments. There is no point in going on, because virtually everything he said was a lie.”
Trump also directly accused Biden of his own failings and claimed Biden’s own strengths, saying, for example, that Biden, who has enacted the most sweeping legislation of any president since at least Lyndon Johnson, couldn’t get anything done while he, who accomplished only tax cuts, was more effective. He responded to the calling out of his own criminal convictions by saying that Biden “could be a convicted felon,” and falsely stating: “This man is a criminal.” And, repeatedly, Trump called America a “failing nation” and described it as a hellscape.
It went on and on, and that was the point. This was not a debate. It was Trump using a technique that actually has a formal name, the Gish gallop, although I suspect he comes by it naturally. It’s a rhetorical technique in which someone throws out a fast string of lies, non-sequiturs, and specious arguments, so many that it is impossible to fact-check or rebut them in the amount of time it took to say them. Trying to figure out how to respond makes the opponent look confused, because they don’t know where to start grappling with the flood that has just hit them.
It is a form of gaslighting, and it is especially effective on someone with a stutter, as Biden has. It is similar to what Trump did to Biden during a debate in 2020. In that case, though, the lack of muting on the mics left Biden simply saying: “Will you shut up, man?” a comment that resonated with the audience. Giving Biden the enforced space to answer by killing the mic of the person not speaking tonight actually made the technique more effective.
There are ways to combat the Gish gallop— by calling it out for what it is, among other ways— but Biden retreated to trying to give the three pieces of evidence that established his own credentials on the point at hand. His command of those points was notable, but the difference between how he sounded at the debate and how he sounded on stage at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, just an hour afterward suggested that the technique worked on him.
That’s not ideal, but as Monique Pressley put it, “The proof of Biden’s ability to run the country is the fact that he is running it. Successfully. Not a debate performance against a pathological lying sociopath.”
A much bigger deal is what it says that the television media and pundits so completely bought into Trump’s performance. They appear to have accepted Trump’s framing of the event— that he is dominant— so fully that the fact Trump unleashed a flood of lies and non-sequiturs simply didn’t register. And, since the format established that the CNN journalists running the debate did not challenge anything either candidate said, and Dale’s fact-checking spot came long after the debate ended, the takeaway of the event was a focus on Biden’s age rather than on Trump’s inability to tell the truth or form a coherent thought.
At the end of the evening, pundits were calling not for Trump— a man liable for sexual assault and business fraud, convicted of 34 felonies, under three other indictments, who lied pathologically— to step down, but for Biden to step down… because he looked and sounded old. At 81, Biden is indeed old, but that does not distinguish him much from Trump, who is 78 and whose inability to answer a question should raise concerns about his mental acuity.
About the effect of tonight’s events, former Republican operative Stuart Stevens warned: “Don’t day trade politics. It’s a sucker’s game. A guy from Queens out on bail bragged about overturning Roe v. Wade, said in public he didn’t have sex with a porn star, defended tax cuts for billionaires, defended Jan. 6th. and called America the worst country in the world. That guy isn’t going to win this race.”
Trump will clearly have pleased his base tonight, but Stevens is right to urge people to take a longer view. It’s not clear whether Trump or Biden picked up or lost votes; different polls gave the win to each, and it’s far too early to know how that will shake out over time.
Of far more lasting importance than this one night is the clear evidence that stage performance has trumped substance in political coverage in our era. Nine years after Trump launched his first campaign, the media continues to let him call the shots.
Change Research, a Democratic consulting firm interviewed 47 voters who watched the debate and concluded that though Biden did badly, Trump did as well. Viewers found him “dishonest, aggressive, and obnoxious... [Y]oung people in particular are unhappy with the candidates on offer… The debate served to remind participants of what they don’t like about Trump. They described him as ‘slimy,’ ‘lying,’ and ‘random.’ If President Biden was viewed as losing his train of thought at times, President Trump was also viewed as being off on his own tangents and not answering the question. Additionally, he was viewed as being defensive, badgering, and ‘dodgy.’ … For the most part, participants said the debate didn’t change their intended vote choice, or that it reinforced how they were already planning to vote.”
Ever see anyone use the Gish Gallop before? It’s a pretty common right-wing technique and it’s used all the time by bullshitters like Trump. The first time I saw it in action was when Sarah Palin was using it— and then Nigel Farage when he was trying to overwhelm people with lies about Brexit. But it started with crackpot creationist Duane Gish, who used this technique in debates against evolutionary scientists. He’d present numerous arguments against evolution in rapid succession, making it difficult for his opponents to address each point within the limited time available. And now Climate Change deniers you use the same way, flooding the discussion with misleading statistics, cherry-picked data, and debunked theories to create the illusion of controversy and uncertainty. The anti-vax nuts and the QAnon people use it routinely, presenting a plethora of dubious claims and spurious evidence to create a façade of legitimacy, making it impossible, or at best labor-intensive, for debunkers to address each point systematically.
"At the end of the evening, pundits were calling not for Trump— a man liable for sexual assault and business fraud, convicted of 34 felonies, under three other indictments, who lied pathologically— to step down, but for Biden to step down… because he looked and sounded old. At 81, Biden is indeed old, but that does not distinguish him much from Trump, who is 78 and whose inability to answer a question should raise concerns about his mental acuity. " The Democratic candidate for President shouldn't just be better than the other guy, especially if the other guy is a lying, philandering, con-man and a felon. He should be a paragon. Biden is 81 and has spent the last 4 years in…
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Biden easily could've and definitely should've wiped the floor with Trump in an unprecedently early debate that his campaign eagerly sought. Instead, Biden spent the evening wandering around in la la land and reinforcing every negative perception of his fitness for office. He had to be helped off the stage by his wife afterwards:
https://www.politico.com/video/2024/06/28/jill-biden-escorts-joe-biden-off-stage-after-first-presidential-debate-1346575
A reasonably capable Dem opponent would be comfortably leading Drowsy Don now and would be in a position to win by a solid margin in November. Instead, Biden is in a dead heat in overall popular vote polls and clearly trailing in swing state polls. His ceiling is to somehow wheeze over the finish line with 270 EV's and his odds of reaching that ceili…